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/Action Comics just had their, Wrap up to the story that they've been running for a while. Okay. So they've been doing the Superman family /thing for a little while, and they just did a wrap up in an annual and it was the most cleanly wrapped up story arc I've seen in a long time.
Even with a closer, like a, almost like a Superman flying off into the sunset kind of thing. It was super tight. And I think it's because they're, I'm. The newest issue is a Bizarro issue. New creative team picking up this Bizarro story. Yeah. So I think the creative team was literally flying off into the sunset, but it was so clean.
And I thought the storyline was cool. Like it was there was a, there's a big bad that you didn't know who the big bad was. And then [00:01:00] it's like a call back to Superman and the authority. a big bad from that series. That was a while back. Yeah. And it was good. it was, it was a good big bad.
I kind of wish they would, I wish she would be more of a baddie in the future. It's it's the daughter, it's like another, it's an Elseworlds version of Talia and Batman's daughter and Bruce Wayne's daughter. Okay. And so she's got, like, this The weird mysticism stuff from the Lazarus things, but super smart, Bruce Wayne level genius at the same time.
Right. Excellent. Big bad, really good. Big bad. I really enjoyed the wrap up for world's finest Batman and Superman that came out this week. I haven't read it yet. Oh, I haven't picked up my books. Oh, okay. I don't want to spoil it, but Mark Waid gets, once again, it would be a whole other episode to get into who did what in Kingdom Come.
And, you know, if we're going to, if anyone's going to keep going back to the [00:02:00] well, to try to put their stamp on it, it's Mark, because he did the kingdom. Sure. And but now he's done some world building. With this you didn't know where it was heading when the book first came out and now you see they really did a good job delving into Magog and Why he did what he did to the Joker and then what happens after many years after okay?
The origin the Magog origin is awesome. All of that was a lot of fun and first off, I look at Kingdom Come, I always want to go, don't touch it. Leave it alone. Right. Stop. Stop. Yeah. Sorry. Don't roll your eyes. Just like Watchmen. Don't touch it. Stop poking at it. Yeah.
But if you're gonna try, the one thing I can preach about Wade is that Wade didn't try to find Alec Ross's voice. Because when you look at Kingdom Come, to me that is Alec Ross voice. Okay. With the art style [00:03:00] the photorealism, the, you know, there is very much, and I can see why they would argue over it.
I could take all the dialogue out of Kingdom Come. Right. And still know what's going on. This, and in the Kingdom, it, to me, In the graphic novel, or the trade paper that just came out, kid, so if you want to see what I'm talking about, that night, that forgettable 90s, 2000 follow up that nobody but me and Mr.
St. James picked up. I did, yeah. Offspring. Yes. That was interesting. That was interesting. This is Mark's attempt to go, instead of the cash grab that Kingdom was, this was his attempt at going, okay, when y'all weren't looking, I brought you back to this world. And I put my, I'm just going to put a little finale on this one character.
Maybe he didn't like the way, maybe he didn't like the way it came across before. I'm still confused why he did a world's finest Teen Titans. I don't understand because it's a six issue. It's in that [00:04:00] universe. I don't know. There's nothing really other than he just wanted to write a Teen Titans story. I picked up all of them thinking it was going to tie in and it was still pleasant for, you know, if he kind of, Want those titans that weren't Perez and Wolfman.
Yeah, that was all right. But I really want, I mean, I don't know if you're reading it, Steven, but when Jason reads this, I really want to hear your thought. Cause you're the one that told me they're in the kingdom verse. And I was like, Oh, they are. Then I'm going to pick this up because I didn't give a damn about a Silver Age, World's Finest Superman team up, but you tell me that I started.
It was pretty good though. It's the most fun, like, Superman, Batman book. That's what's been missing. I sound like an old fart when I say that, you know, they're fun. It was a fun little Batman, Superman. I don't think you sound like an old fart when you say that. I think that's actually one of the big problems that we've.
That we've kind of got as fans at the moment, is that it's, you know, it is sometimes very difficult to [00:05:00] recapture the kind of fun aspect of some of this stuff, cause either people are trying to make a point, or it's a statement, or it's just gobbledygook, but yeah. That's what I've liked about the Dawn of DC stuff in general.
Like the Dawn of DC, sort of, Banner all the things that they released with that was it really did bring light back into the universe Yeah, the idea was to brighten the place up again. Yeah, and they succeeded like I have enjoyed the sort of The happiness that's been in the DC universe right for a little while now even Nightwing is a front and center Character now who used to sit in shadows like his whole thing was like Batman jr.
Right. And now he's a front and center version of Batman basically where, and Batman can hang out in the shadows like he's supposed to. Right. And I think I got the writer's name, right? Tom Taylor. Yeah. You know, you got to think he started this run before they did that dawn of DC banner. So he has a good meter and a good.
[00:06:00] I like his Nightwing. Yes. And I like his Titans. But you know, we talk about all this, you know, brightness and all that, but I just read about, you know, what the summer event is with Amanda Waller and all of that. So hopefully we can get through that. Cause it, to me, it's a ridiculous premise.
Yes. I want to steal all the people, super proud of that. And she never wanted to do that before. She just wanted to control them. Right. Make them work for her. Make everyone human, but that's a whole nother podcast. So what are you, Mr. St. James, what are you reading there? Just to comment on that though, it's, you can, I think you can have a very dark story.
But that doesn't mean that the characters are going to succumb. And we talked at length about the challenges of the, you know, Snyderverse and blah, blah, blah. But that's the thing is that you can have it as dark as you want. You can have it as life threatening. You can have it as [00:07:00] cataclysmic as you want.
And we've seen this done very well, you know, Crisis on Infinite Earths and things like that, you know. But the characters shouldn't succumb to it. They need to be Because we're reading the book for their adventures and we don't want to see our heroes become compromised or lessened by the challenges that they face.
And, you know, I was thinking about, I was thinking about this recently because of I've been kind of, you know, Cherry picking some old Claremont X Men stories, kind of refreshing my memory about certain characters Mr. Sinister and so on and so forth and There's horrible in Mutant Massacre. I mean that the first one that in the Morlock Tunnels everything I mean it gets very bleak But the characters kind of were held on to their light so In the [00:08:00] case cause there's a scene, I think it's I think it's Riptide is the is the evil mutant who spins around really quick and throws the barbs or the shurikens or something like that and Colossus puts an end to Riptide.
Right around the neck. And it's, it reminded me like, what a, Oh my, this is Pete. Pete, this is Pete. Pete doesn't do this. But I never feared that this is going to That we're going to see the shadow of Colossus from, ha. Sorry, that was totally unintentional, gamers. We'll be right back, yeah.
And unfortunately, actually, I don't think they ever really pulled Colossus back to the sort of sweet gent, gentility that he had before. Which is kind of one of the things that made that character so damned interesting. Because he's a romantic and he's a poet and he's an artist and He's a farmer and he's also this [00:09:00] incredibly strong with this organic steel.
I mean, he's a formidable presence, but there was always the fun. You got him and Nightcrawler and Wolverine off to the side and you just knew that They were annoying the hell out of Wolverine because I mean, Nightcrawler is just this bound, you know, energy and happiness and delight. That's the misstep and enjoying Pete's naivety.
Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Oh yeah. But that's the thing is that yeah. Astonishing X Men they gave him the, they gave him the goodness again. It kind of brought him back to the dead, but Claremont, but it went from, He was an acolyte of Magneto's for a while and, they tried to make him more serious. I mean, and now I think he's got a beard and he's a killer or something at some point.
That's one of these stories. That's way down the line, kids. Excuse me. That's one of these stories that they're kind of wrapping up now is the discovery about his brother's been manipulating him and he's doing all these dark and evil things and what have you. Yeah. [00:10:00] I, as a fan of that character, he is one of my favorites on that book.
Would be, can we kind of get, not his innocence, because once innocence is lost, you cannot get that back. No, I mean, he was with Kitty for a little bit, you know, huh? This is true. Which is why I always think of attending the X Men panel at the convention in 1987 and Claremont and I think Louise Simonson and I think Anne Tchenty was there.
And there was somebody else and somebody in the audience kind of shouted out , when is Kitty Pride going to get laid? And Claremont, without missing a beat, he's like, What makes you think she hasn't already? It's like, ooooh, all the nerds and fanboys, ooooh, that's Colossus? And does everything go organic?
Does that work like birth control at that point? I don't know. I mean, this is After Dark. We are drinking. We are actually drinking, yes. This is a a [00:11:00] delightful, whiskey provided by Mr. Jason. What are we drinking tonight, Jason? Tonight we have, we're finishing off the decanter. We have an Avengers decanter here.
We're finishing off the decanter of Angels Envy. And we'll soon be breaking into something I've never tried. It's a McKenna Kentucky bourbon. We like Kentucky bourbon. It's ten years old. From let's see. This was barreled on in August of 2013. So it's a 10-year-old bourbon. Oh, very nice.
So we'll try that out. There we go. Very Ron Swanson of us. That all we need now is a cigar, a medium rest steak and bridge it on the river. Quiet. Yeah. And we'll good. That's it. We'll do this, we'll do this my place next time we'll sit on the patio and there you go. I'll break out some cigars. So to your, you're not a cigar no, but I'm a steak and I'm a steak and booze guy.
So that's a manly movies. We can do all those things. Absolutely. So, so there you go. But okay. So the book that that I'm bringing to the table which is kind of funny because it sort of ties into a few different aspects of what's been discussed so far is Ryan [00:12:00] North's run on Fantastic Four.
Oh, yes. Oh yeah? Yeah. And I've been enjoying the Have you been following it since Because I've been speaking highly of this the entire run. Yes. Okay, so I read the first two issues. And then like so many titles that I kept buying the issues and kept, you know, Thank you, Marvel, again, for the free digital codes.
It makes my reading experience so much easier, because I can do the code, put it on the iPad, put the book away, I'm not making a mess, and then I just get out the iPad, and I can go through a bunch of issues in a single setting, and it's a lot of fun. That's a good setup. I don't do that. I should do that.
Oh, yeah! That's a good idea. Yeah. I don't do that at all. And I like to relax on the couch or relax on my bed and read. And my dog who's a big German shepherd, if he sees me, he'll be like, [00:13:00] Oh, is it nap time? And he will jump on that. The number of times I've had to kind of fling a book, because otherwise he's going to just tear right through it because he's cuddly.
So there you go. But Ryan North So I I've had this just, I think I had this discussion in the previous iteration of the multiverse podcast. I had a conversation about fantastic four because Dan slot was just coming on. Yes. And I was expressing my trepidation. At Dan Slott, who is a, I like Dan Slott he did a amazing, and spectacular job with Spider Man.
And ultimately, exactly, you know, he didn't get stuck anywhere. I know, we just, it was superior. Yes, see, leave it to the professional. Right there you go. You should drink more. Damn. [00:14:00] Planning on it. Planning on it. But somebody like Dan Slott coming on Fantastic Four, I'm like because I my view on Fantastic Four is that this is an opportunity to get really smart.
This should be the brainy book. It needs the heart, but it needs an element of smart with it. I, that's the Fantastic Four that I like. I always enjoyed it when, and then we're pulling on the same thread that it tackled a world of the Marvel universe that other heroes really couldn't.
Yes. Now, the exception of Galactus, you know, Thor can jump but, you know. But even then. But then, you know, the negative zone. Yeah. It's like a good Doctor Strange story is that wedge of the universe that you really don't need Spider Man and the Beast. Exactly. Fighting. And you could throw Reed Richards in there just so he could be confused.
Yes. But since he's [00:15:00] gone toe to toe with Doom, depending on which iteration of Doom, Right. I've always suspected that Reed also, when no one's looking, went to Hogwarts and is also a sorcerer. He just doesn't ever pull it out. Yeah. Just didn't surprise me. Wouldn't it surprise you?
Oh yeah. I, but I agree with you because this Norse version of. The Fantastic Four where New York just, you know, five blocks just up and disappeared in New York. Right. All right you know, it'll be back. There you go. It, that, you know, scientific warriors. It's sometimes, very often, Reed Richards is smart, too smart for his own good.
And that's been explored in some previous stories, where, you know, Reed gets so caught up in the momentum of building something new and something exciting new, Prison 44, for example for you Civil War fans. That he loses sight of the human cost in things and that's why that Dynamic of those [00:16:00] four very interesting very well developed characters comes into play So well, what was that?
So are you a pro Johnny with the handlebar mustache? Oh, absolutely. I think that's fantastic but the problem with fantastic four has been in order to deliver, and this is going back to that old podcast. The problem is that in order to write smart, you kind of have to be able to be smart about what you're doing because, and if you can't, or it's just not in your wheelhouse, we're not, I'm not talking about intelligence.
I'm talking about that kind of grasp of the unknown, being able to bring in those things that like, that makes you think on on an intellectual level, let's put it that way. Okay. So fantastic four is not. Let's get Sue Storm into the [00:17:00] skimpy outfit. Although it was fun at the time. There have been writers where you just think, you've got absolutely, why the hell are you writing Fantastic Four?
It's, this is not a smash book. This is not you know, who are we punching this week? It should be something more than that. Again, it's Because it's a unique voice. I a couple of years ago, I went back and re read through the Stan and Jack book. Okay. Now, number one, yes, it's dated. Number two it's definitely a product of its time.
But the thing that you cannot deny is that what you're watching are two guys kind of at the top of their game. Who are trying to cram as many crazy bombastic ideas into this book that they possibly can. There's enough stuff. Yeah. Okay. [00:18:00] There's enough matter in those hundred issues or so. I mean, you know, you could have had 500 issues with this stuff if you'd expand, if you had the decompressed storytelling approach that we have today.
I mean, this thing just still be going on. Yeah, it could still be going on, you know. And again, it's, it is dated and it's kind of difficult to process it at today's quality standard. But I kept reading. I'm like this, again, I'm not a big Kirby fan. I know, but he's perfect for that book because it's all big and machines and science and weird aliens.
And the negative, the whole thing with the negative zone is just like, wow, this is so, he gave it a very cinematic flair. Absolutely. Absolutely. So in contrast, did you read Burns? I did. To me, very similar in many ways. He had a little better balance, I think, on [00:19:00] superheroes interacting with the rest of the Marvel universe, but yet they would show up and let us handle, you know, the, I remember the Galactus story, two 30, two 41, two 42, or, you know, knock lacks on his ass and all that.
And you had. Everyone, you know, everyone running interference for the FF knowing that the FF would figure it out. Yes. It's the way I read that. Oh yeah, no, absolutely. And then, you know, to, both in the Kirby run and in the Burn run, the one on one relationship that Reed had with Galactus. Yes. You know, That's actually the thing that I kind of think of the most When it comes to that is that, that, that was a moment.
Where Burn, and I don't think he's ever topped it for himself, that was Burn at the height of his ability to do character development. And he started to add these layers in and the smart, by my definition of [00:20:00] smart, which I can't articulate. So I hope people kind of get the gist of what I'm saying. The level of smart wasn't there.
But it was more than made up for with the heart level. The kind of the family element. The family element was there. And so much so that, you know, that there's so much heart in that book. He could also do his Thing The Thing series as well, which I loved, you know, and bring in She Hulk and make that work.
And yeah, it's again, what zany crazy thing are we going to get this month? You know, there, there were something. And maybe it didn't stick out, and maybe it stuck out to you, maybe it didn't, it stuck out to me at the time. When Byrne did a retelling of Doctor Doom, his origin, there is a panel where, you know, you always assume that in the Kirbyverse when the explosion happened that his face was all torn to heck and just putting the hot mask on was no big deal, [00:21:00] but Byrne actually showed you the injury.
Yeah. You know, pre mask and all it was a scar from his eye. Just down his cheek. Right. Which could have been very easily corrected. Right. With plastic surgery, but because he was supposed to be so perfect. Yeah. He, and you, he didn't go into any dialogue or describe, you know, learn, didn't go it's just a minor wound and doom's arrogance.
He went off to really ruin his face. Right. That caught me the moment I saw that. And I went, huh. Thought dune was, looked like a bad barbecue, you know, a bad piece of brisket that Right. Beforehand. But you went and did this to yourself and blamed Richards. Right. Did that, it was those things that were stuck out in Burns.
Oh, absolutely Ron. That I just loved and that, those were the times. I just love the Fantastic Four. Yes, I was just waiting for it to come out and that's gonna become fantastic four. Yeah, no, I'm sorry. I will. It is becoming the fandom. [00:22:00] So, here's the thing. I read the first two issues.
And they were the single character issues, right? And I was like, I can't get into this. Because I'm not a big Fantastic Four fan from the past. But I saw that as like, okay, this is my jumping on point. I've always, I do this with Marvel characters a lot. Where I really want to like their stories. Like, I think the characters are cool.
Huh. But I can't find the storyline that I'm super into like I find this with Silver Surfer I find Silver Surfer like I think Silver Surfer as a character is a super cool concept, right? Moon Knight's another one. I think Moon Knight's a super cool concept, but I've never enjoyed A Silver Surfer story, like a solo story, right?
Or a Moon Knight solo story. Does that make sense? Yeah, so I feel like you should appreciate the these characters because you're in the universe, but you're just like, nah, it's the connection. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I was looking, I was hoping for a jumping on point with. With [00:23:00] fantastic four because they're one that I've never really read like I've always wanted to I've always wanted to like them And I actually like the movies, but I know nobody else did but I kind of like the movies So not tanks.
I think the characters are cool. Like I love the reed richards thing and we're going to talk about the ultimate re Launch or whatever later, but the bad guy reed richards. What's his name? Like the master the creator of the creator. Yeah You Dude, that is the maker. That's right. Thank you. That's the scariest concept ever.
Like super evil Reed Richards. Love it. Yeah. Reed Richards got no, no F's to give. Yeah. That's yeah. Oh, you know what? I did like them in ultimate. I liked the ultimate fantastic four. Yeah, it was great. So the, in a kind of a rambly roundabout, we'll get back to it.
We're getting back to what you were really meant to say. What I meant really meant to say. So, and again, I keep going back to this whole podcast, but here's the point I was trying to make. So what this was a big old [00:24:00] juicy love letter, right? To what Jonathan Hickman did on the book, because what Hickman did, which is why Hickman's run on the book is my favorite run on the book, is he got that heart, he got the family thing, he got it down beautifully, but Hickman brings the smart.
So it's, when you read a fantastic, the best Fantastic Four story in my mind should be We're going to explore something new. We're going to consider something we've not done before. It should always be moving forward. Spider Man can kind of keep redoing the same kind of things again and again, because you know, he's probably going to fail.
So that's just the, that's his character. He's, you know, he's got the Parker look, but Fantastic Four should always be about something new. So I loved what Hickman done. So. Dan Slot. You know, okay nice try. Okay. It wasn't a [00:25:00] terrible book, but it just, I wasn't like wowed Ryan North. What I can say to, to you Jason is steal yourself to read the next two issues. Okay? Get the first story arc down. Because what North has done, in those first couple of issues, is he's setting the tone for each of the individual characters. And then, bless him, he brings them together. So now you've got the Fantastic Four, and you didn't have to wait for ages and ages.
Remember that, Slott at first was like, When is the Fantastic Four actually going to start being the Fantastic Four? So, North obviously remembers that, and is like, Okay, I'm going to have them separate, just so I can flesh them out. But then I'm going to bring them back together. There's two things that I'm absolutely loving about Ryan North's run.
Number one, Boy is he bringing the [00:26:00] smart, but he's also bringing in like the textbook smart. I've got a list of notes Of things that I need to go researching that I need to go and look up nice Because he's talking about this principle or that physicist and this and that I'm like I know you're not making stuff up.
I know that you're pulling in real world stuff here. Maybe he isn't. And then I'll be like, I've got egg on my face, but I'm like, no, I want to go. Cause Hickman kind of did that a little bit, but Ryan North is really going for it on the science side. Like I, I need to, you know, take some Gingko biloba before I start reading this book.
But the second thing, which I love even more, Ryan North is doing one and done stories. Standalones. Each issue is a standalone. I mean, there's a couple of two parters. There's there's a common theme of what you're waiting for something to happen, but yes, you could. And I'm like, I mean, it's the love that the nostalgic parts of me is like, see, and I've been saying this for years.
You can do [00:27:00] that. You can do, and it's so good. And I think the fantasy for lens itself. Yeah, I think that's very, I think that's hard to do it for characters. Tell it, it's gotta be a hard thing to do. It's hard, but what it means is that you've got to get that character development down. So you don't need to waste a lot of time doing that.
Yeah. Get in, get the story going, get out onto the next one. I feel like he understands being grim. Pretty good. He, I think he understands all the characters, but the one that sticks out to me has been, and I've always kind of said. You have to have Ben right. Yes. Oh yeah. You have to have Ben right.
Johnny, I think anyone can write. I mean, there's something, I mean, it's not that he's a throwaway, but he's got some depth, but if you don't have Ben's heart, and if you miscast Sue, I don't care how smart you are. You have re babbling out [00:28:00] science all day long, because I've seen some of those iterations of Phantoms 4 where Ben and Sue aren't acting like they're supposed to.
Right. And then you get Black Panther and Storm in as backup members, because. Right. That's. Yeah I know exactly what you're talking about. Have you ever gotten, has there ever been, like Sue Storm, like scary, somebody messed with their family, Sue Storm written. Yes. Yes. Okay. There's quite a few examples.
Bernd did a couple of them. He did, but Civil War. Yeah, Civil War. Civil War. That's what, that's my favorite. Really great movement. Where you realize that Like she explodes somebody's heart from the inside or something. No, what she does is She But good idea, Jason. Yeah, she drops basically whatever large Invisible object she creates and she drops it on a guy and it hits him with such force that it Indents into the ground, but all you're seeing is the indentation And the flattened villain who's probably got every bone in his body broken, you [00:29:00] know, but I think someone described it like it might've been in civil war that I saw it like where they were like, people don't realize what she can do.
She can create these bubbles anywhere. Oh yeah. Even, you know, in the middle of your heart. That's right. No she is the most powerful member from a powers perspective. She is. I will say. It's not a criticism because I'm loving it, but I don't think I've ever read Sue Storm in a Fantastic Four issue or story that is coming across as smart as Ryan North is writing.
But I'm okay with that because if you go all the way back to the beginning, look, they don't just let any old dummy get on a spaceship. Each, you know, they each had to have something going on upstairs in order to actually be on that flight in the first place. It's funny you say that. I re, I recently, we're talking about, I reread, I found an old trade paperback that had [00:30:00] the first six of the Heroes Reborn, Jim Lee.
Her character was, she was running her own company, very similar to what they had in Ultimate Fantasy IV. So she was Reed's peer. Right. In a lot of ways. He was actually her boss. His boss. Right. That was. That's right. That was kind of the, I think their first attempt at making Sue something, you know, Outside before she got her powers like relevant, but I know exactly yeah, I mean in yeah that First FF.
I stole Stan and Jack was come on, honey You're my girlfriend and you're getting on the ship get your kid brother who's working on a Working on a hot rod and me and my buddy who can fly a ship, we're just going to, we're going to go up there and don't be a screaming girl while we're up there.
That, yeah, and that's why I say that they fleshed it out pretty, that, yeah, that's why I say that some of those old issues are quite dated, you know, so, What are you doing? What are you doing today, honey? I'm going down to the lab because I'm going to go and solve some impossible equation and possibly [00:31:00] create something amazing and awesome for the entire universe.
What are you doing, honey? I'm going girl shopping with Jan Van Dyke and yeah. We're going to go buy girls. Yes, me and Van Dyne are going to go clothes shopping. Get our hair done. I was like you know, we're Don't spend all my money. Ha. Cause we don't have any money. Yeah, we don't have any, we don't have any money.
We're just waiting for Willie to bring the mail. It's each member of that team. Even Johnny storm. Each member of that team has a unique intelligence and that's where it works best for me. So it's not to say that Reed Richards is smarter than Johnny storm. Of course, Reed Richards is smarter than Johnny Storm, but Johnny Storm is not without his own unique intelligence, which means Johnny Storm can be the guy who figures something out that has eluded Reed Richards.
Same with Ben Grimm. Ben thinks with his heart, and there have been [00:32:00] many times, oh, Civil War is a great example of that, where, you know, Ben knows He loves Reed, but he knows that Reed is so obsessed. With trying to make the world a better place with Tony Stark and Hank Pym. Where is it Hank Pym? It was Hank.
Hank was everybody's Skrull. He's a dirty rotten Skrull. Bastards. That's what makes it work. So anyway, so that's the thing that I've been thoroughly loving is that Oh, it's smart. You're gonna make me think. I like that. Oh, it's got heart. Oh, great. Okay. And, you know, Alicia Masters is in there.
That's, that always, that's always fun to watch, because, look, you can't help but think, like, how does that relationship work between Alicia and the thing? I mean, I don't want to go into Kevin Smith territory here or anything, or, you know, that was Mallrats. That was Mallrats with where Stan's like, your friend's awful fascinated with superhero junk.
Yeah, exactly. I think he does okay. You think he does okay? I think, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. We'll see. [00:33:00] But, no, I hope we don't see. No, that's, no, that, no, you're quite right. I don't, that is. Did we, in the last one, talk about She Hulk jumping rope or something? We certainly did. Hey, this isn't, this is a trend.
Again, it is. That was JonBen. It is After Dark. It is After Dark. But, it's, you know, look. We're human beings. We have the same wants and needs and thoughts and stupidity as anybody else, so. Alright, on that note, kids. We'll see you on the see you next time. Go read more comics. Read more comics./
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